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Formal announcements seem to be landing for this, although quite a lot has already been leaked.  

 

A lot of multi-image type functions such as super hires mode, focus stacking and live ND, they sound quite interesting.

 

shooting speeds sound like they have caught up with the now defunct Nikon 1 series.

 

big, ugly body with grip.

 

unfortunatly I'm not looking for something new at the moment.

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Every review I’ve read so far is slating this camera for a number of failings, main amongst the complaints is the EVF in that it’s not been updated. High ISO performance or lack of it is another complaint.

From what I see the E-M1.11 is a better bet. And that the Nikon Z6 or Sony A7.111 cost less and perform better!

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In typical fashion, launch day of a new photography product sees the internet awash with all the self-proclaimed "experts" having their say about how camera X (mind the pun) doesn't do this or that, or isn't up to the mark set by camera Y, etc, etc.

 

What so few of these fault finding pundits do is actually use these tools in a productive manner and provide genuine insights into how a particular product when used with purpose can improve your output. They are all mostly looking for the flaws, not the strengths. So... I pay them little heed. What I tend to do when I am considering any gear upgrade is head over to Flickr and search for images made with the item I am interested in. Seeing the results of practical use is the only thing that really matters to me. I can work around flaws in design, provided I know that the product is going to make my life as a photographer easier.  

 

From the (very) limited reading and watching I done on the E-M1X today, I come away with a few things: 

 

1. The camera is not for me because it is too big for what I do (or why I went with MFT in the first place). 

2. It is good to see Olympus pushing the envelope with technological innovations in their cameras. 

3. The autofocus improvements are welcomed. Hopefully they will filter through to less expensive models. 

 

I'll probably do more digging over the weekend, but for now I shall continue shooting for money with my surviving 1st generation E-M1. Tomorrow it's back to product work in studio. No amount of in camera wizardry is going to make that job any easier... :) 

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I understand that the AF system isn’t all that was hoped for and its tracking ability is limited but improved slightly! To my eyes it seems to be an E-M1.11 repackaged with the addition of a couple of bells added.

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5 hours ago, Dallas said:

Tomorrow it's back to product work in studio. No amount of in camera wizardry is going to make that job any easier... :) 

 

Multi- shot 3D imaging?  And given that depth mapping is already a feature in iPhones, it will probably appear there first.  With 3D data separating the backgrounds becomes much easier.

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9 hours ago, Mike G said:

I understand that the AF system isn’t all that was hoped for and its tracking ability is limited but improved slightly! To my eyes it seems to be an E-M1.11 repackaged with the addition of a couple of bells added.

 

I will say that I haven't done enough research on the AF tracking for even the Mk II, but I have not heard any users of the camera complain about it. They did say though that it is a big improvement on the original camera.

 

Funny, almost 20 years into using film and digital cameras and I can count very few times when my life was perilously close to the end because of AF tracking issues on any camera. :D 

 

7 hours ago, crowecg said:

 

Multi- shot 3D imaging?  And given that depth mapping is already a feature in iPhones, it will probably appear there first.  With 3D data separating the backgrounds becomes much easier.

 

That would be great, but the hardest part of product work isn't so much the editing, it's the setting up. Somebody still has to place the product, make sure it's in the exact same position as the previous one, clean them fastidiously, etc. Today I am shooting T-shirts which I haven't ever done before, so it's going to be a bit of trial and error. I have however come up with an ingenious (if I say so myself) way of shooting and editing them. I have a 1500x2000 pop up backdrop which is white on one side and black on the other. It's also made of woven material so clothing stays in place when I tilt it up to 45˚. Then I have discovered that the Magic Wand feature in Photoshop actually does a much better job of dropping out the background than I could do by hand with the pen tool. The job should be a doddle. 

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Inside today - suffering from the "down under" phenomenon of "high temperature" cabin fever with the A/C turned up and not venturing outdoors as Melbourne swelters.   😳 

 

So I compiled a list of some popular digital cameras and their body weights with and without batteries and cards.

 

The new E-M1X is a heavy blighter - similar to a Nikon D850.  Admittedly two different animals: one a fully specified smaller format M43 professional body with a built in handgrip, and  the other a specialised high resolutiion larger FX/135 format body without a handgrip.

 

For many M43 users, an E-M1 MkII or a G9 might be a better solution unless they are into sports and heavy long lenses, for which the E-M1X body looks optimised to support.

 

 

 

Camera Body Weights.pdf

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my very bad spelling.....

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Lens and flash announcements too. The 150-400 sounds like a safari monster!

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1 hour ago, Hugh_3170 said:

Inside today - suffering from the "down under" phenomenon of "high temperature" cabin fever with the A/C turned up and not venturing outdoors as Melbourne swelters.   😳 

It it was a little warm today - missed the worst of it while I was at work.

 

1 hour ago, Hugh_3170 said:

So I compiled a list of some popular digital cameras and their body weights with and without batteries and cards.

 

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I saw one review site comparing the size against the Fuji GFX50R!  It looks like you can go medium format in a smaller lighter body!😁

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Yes Chris - 775g for the medium format Fuji GFX50R versus 997g for the M43 format E-M1X - both with Card(s) & Batteries.

 

I have updated the table and added the GFX50R weights. 

 

Do bear in mind the weight of the E-M1X's second BLH-1 battery (~74g) and the fact that all of the three Olympus E-M1 camera bodies are still very much metal bodied in their design and construction . 

(BTW, the BLH-1 battery is the same as those used in the E-M1 MkII - handy I guess for those with MkII E-M1 cameras.)

 

5 hours ago, crowecg said:

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I saw one review site comparing the size against the Fuji GFX50R!  It looks like you can go medium format in a smaller lighter body!😁

 

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I'm sure the EM1X will be a very nice addition to Olympus stable, but it has attracted a fair amount of criticism by some who think that the camera was over hyped as being the ultimate mu-43 action camera and the then fell short of expectations! The AF tracking came info criticism for a lack of BIF/wildlife AF mod. Time will tell!

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If Olympus can get the AF speed and tracking issues sorted out to the satisfaction of sports and action photographers, and become best of class for both mirrorless and DSLR cameras, then that will be quite an achievement for mirrorless cameras in general and for the future of the Olympus camera division.  Time will tell.

 

2 hours ago, Mike G said:

I'm sure the EM1X will be a very nice addition to Olympus stable, but it has attracted a fair amount of criticism by some who think that the camera was over hyped as being the ultimate mu-43 action camera and the then fell short of expectations! The AF tracking came info criticism for a lack of BIF/wildlife AF mod. Time will tell!

 

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Firmware updates will probably address whatever AF deficiencies are being whinged about. It should also be noted that whoever has been testing these cameras prior to the release date probably weren't using final production models, so something else to think about. 

 

It's very unlikely that I would invest in such a camera for the work I am doing. Right now I am looking for something that does acceptable in-camera HDR and so far my search is pointing to the Sony range, either the A6500 or the A7iii. Then there is also the Sigma SD Quattro H to look at. I'm not sure if I would buy into Sony because of their fickle nature, especially w.r.t. the lack of support locally. Sigma on the other hand I have always had a good relationship with. 

 

So no... no E-M1X for me (unless I am gifted one :) ). 

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Don't forget the E-M1 MkII - and  I am sure that you havn't,  but I am sure that the arrival of the E-M1X will at least bump down the prices of the MkII. :)

 

I would not touch Sony either.

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What we should be celebrating here is more choice. If it's just what we have been looking for and the price fits, buy it. If it isn't move on. Where's the problem?

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It’s called discussion Mike, I see nothing wrong with examining the details of a new release, it’s where I got info for my choice of the G9. Maybe it’s disappointment regarding the spec of the EM1X that is exercising the critics?

Luckily I don’t have to agonise wether to splash the cash on this one. 😀

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No problem with that Mike but at the moment it is all hypothesising. There are one or two reviews out there but so much of the internet chatter is from revenue seeking websites and fanboys of one brand or another, which is pointless.

When some real world usage reviews are out there from unbiased sources I'll happily join in but at the moment we are not there.

Your reports on the G9 are of far more value to me than than those on DPR.

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15 hours ago, Hugh_3170 said:

Don't forget the E-M1 MkII - and  I am sure that you havn't,  but I am sure that the arrival of the E-M1X will at least bump down the prices of the MkII. :)

 

I would not touch Sony either.

 

Yes, that's definitely a possibility now. However, the reason for looking at the Sony is for the in camera HDR which seems to work much better for RE photography than what Olympus does. This is purely for efficiencies in my capacity to shoot more properties for my primary client.

 

I have developed a good workflow with the E-M1's I use now, but the process of bringing those images into Lightroom and then from Lightroom to Aurora HDR is very time consuming. I could literally triple my output if I didn't have to engage in that mixed editing process. There's a Facebook group for HDR Real Estate that I am following and some of the guys there are showing pretty impressive in camera HDR from their A7iii and A6500 cameras. It's a bit of a conundrum for me because I really dislike Sony as a company...

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Dallas, you might want to try the 30 day free trial of ON1 Photo Raw 2019. While I normally steer clear of that company for its pushy marketing and obsession with offering endless, unscripted, rambling "how-to" videos as "special offer" discounts stated at incredibly optimistic dollar values, it has one of the quickest, most user-friendly direct-from-raw HDR components I've ever used. As it is alsoa browser/cataloguer it may well do to use as a stand-alone for just the real estate stuff if you always use HDR for that work. It would certainly save the hassle of using two separate programs at the very least.

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I will definitely check that out, thanks Alan! 

 

I had a meeting with my client last week and they have told me that they are quadrupling their agent base this year and they would prefer to deal with one entity for photography instead of multiple photographers. So basically in a nutshell I need to quadruple myself if I am to keep up which bodes for a very interesting year, for sure! 

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3 hours ago, Dallas said:

I will definitely check that out, thanks Alan! 

 

I had a meeting with my client last week and they have told me that they are quadrupling their agent base this year and they would prefer to deal with one entity for photography instead of multiple photographers. So basically in a nutshell I need to quadruple myself if I am to keep up which bodes for a very interesting year, for sure! 

 

 I know ON1 has an aim to compete directly with Lightroom's cataloguing setup, but I'm not sure how close they are to it, or if it is compatible at all, which is why I thought you might have to run ON1 as a separate RE processor/cataloguer.

 

I just had a play with an old HDR set I took with the D3s back in 2011 and it really is extremely quick.

 

Just select the relevant bracket of raw files downloaded into the browser, right click on any one of them and select "create HDR", adjust the sliders until the thumbnail displayed looks OK (which may not even be required), hit save and the "Develop" window opens with the full-size photo which can be further tweaked if desired, then hit export to a saved preset file-type & folder. It honestly took a lot less time than I took to type this.

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A heavy m4/3 body seems doomed to failure.

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4 hours ago, Anthony said:

A heavy m4/3 body seems doomed to failure.

 

You can sort of see where they are trying to go with this - to address the m4/3 isn't a pro system crowd, but then a lot of such people are stuck with the view that a pro system needs to be 35mm frame and have a mirror.  Adding the grip won't be enough to satisfy them.  

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I don't know if it will be a failure. There are a significant number of professional photographers who have fully embraced MFT for reasons of the superior lenses and smaller sizes that they offer. A bigger camera might be just the thing they are looking for as many have stated (to me) that they don't like the smaller bodies. Wildlife photographers, particularly birders I know, are over the moon with this new release. Sports guys might be a harder nut to crack, but we'll have to see what happens. If I was a sports shooter I wouldn't have any problem choosing a smaller lens system on this body. Remember, Olympus has some delicious old 4/3 mount legacy glass that will put many other premium brands in the shade. The 35-100/2.0 and 90-250/2.8 come to mind. 

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