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ThinkTank recently released their new V2.0 TurnStyle bags and they kindly send me one for the purposes of this review. 

 

So, for the first time ever I have created a video review! Let me tell you upfront that this was no easy task. It took me the entire day and much of the evening to film and then edit into what I hope is a useful video for anybody thinking about buying this bag (not to mention the overnight upload to YouTube on a 512Kbps upload line!). Unfortunately I could only upload in 720p, so if you are watching on a high res monitor full screen is probably not a good idea. 

 

I used 2 cameras to make the video. The scenes of me were done using the Olympus E-M1 and the overhead demo was done using the Pen-F. The audio changed between them because the Pen-F doesn't have a mic input (I bought a Rode VideoMicro so that I can do more video for Fotozones).  

 

Anyway, hope you enjoy the video review format. It's a tad long, but hopefully useful. Please be constructive in the comments by letting me know what I can improve on for future videos (watch out for the bloopers at the end). :) 

 

 

Remember, you can support Fotozones by using this link to buy your TurnStyle bag directly from ThinkTank, who will also send you a nice little gift with it if you do. 

 

https://www.thinktankphoto.com/collections/turnstyle?rfsn=140410.92f763

 

 


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Sorry TT I think it would not be possible to conceive of a worse design for a camera bag, way too many twiddly bits! Going by the Dallas video quite difficult to get things in and out of it, a built in rain cove, well why not make it out of a waterproof material in the first place, just another twiddly bit to get lost and or flap about, back to the drawing board chaps! And I would bet there is not a left handed version? And god help anyone with DSLR outfit they've got no chance!

 

Dallas, I can't recall hearing your voice before! 


Mike Gorman

 

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Mike, I'm left handed. This bag is just fine for me. Sure, it may not work for everyone, but that's not a reason to slate it. And if you have a DSLR you can put it inside this version of the bag by changing the dividers about. Also, there is a larger version, the TurnStyle 20 which I am sure will accommodate bigger gear. 

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It was your video that prompted my reply, I will admit that it was the rain cover that was the main reason for my dislike of this bag but only the main reason because that tells me it is not water resistant! Also I noticed you struggling to get stuff in and out of the bag! That said I do still consider it a bad design! So we shall have to agree to disagree!

 

I'm not sure but this bag seems to be a design to fill a fashion slot in the ThinkTank range? I may be wrong but I don't think so!


Mike Gorman

 

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I think you're wrong Mike and apparently you missed the entire thrust of the video review, which is to describe it as a hybrid bag; not quite a shoulder bag, not quite a backpack, but somewhere in-between.

 

Why would you need such a bag? Because of the reasons I explained in the video. If you are moving around and you need to get your gear out without having to put the bag you are carrying down on the ground, this bag solves that issue. Also, if you have ever been in a shooting situation (like at an event) where you need to get lower angles, but are using a shoulder bag, you'll know that as soon as you shift your position gravity will draw that bag off of your shoulder. Also, most shoulder bags have flaps that get in the way or are hard to open, making it harder to get your gear out than this one ever could be. Have you ever had your shoulder bag open and in the process of trying to capture something while moving around had an item fall out? It's happened to me a few times. 

 

Trust me, I have tried many, many, many different types of camera bags in many different shooting situations. This bag is not a fashion statement - it's a practical solution to an everyday problem I have faced many times. I realise that these situations may not apply to you, but they will apply to many people who are similar to me. It's a good product and I am not being paid to say that. ThinkTank are a credible company making incredibly good solutions for people like me.  

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Dallas as I said we shall have to agree to disagree, I have no wish to have an argument with you! 


Mike Gorman

 

Nikon Z7 - Nikkor Z 14-30, 24-70, 35, 50, 85, FTZ adapter 

GX8 - Panasonic 20, 25

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1)  Great to finally hear your voice.

2)  There is a lot of hiss in the audio.  I think the camera internal audio gain may be set too high.

3)  Reviews are never easy to do.  I think you did a good job for the first video.  You'll only get better with more exposure to it.

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Thanks Andrew, much appreciated. 

 

I am using the Rode Video Micro on the E-M1 for the first and last segments. The overhead was done with the Pen-F which doesn't have a mic input. The hiss in the last segment may have been a processing issue that I didn't get right. Or it might be that I left the studio window open and that's the sound of the wind in the trees outside. 

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I'm pretty sure that is hiss from the microphone.  If it were wind, it would be intermittent.  From my end it sounded pretty constant.


Nikon D500, D700, Df, 18-140/3.5-5.6 VR, 20/2.8D, 28-105/3.5-4.5D, 50/1.8D, 60/2.8D Macro, 80-200/4.5-5.6, 300/4E PF, 35/2D,  Tamron 70-200/2.8 VC

Manual Focus Lenses:  Nikon 55/3.5 Micro pre-AI, 105/2.5 AI, ZY Mitakon Creator 85/2

Olympus PEN-F, EM5.2, Olympus 9mm f/8 Fisheye, 17/1.8, 75-300/4.8-6.7 II, Panasonic 12-32/3.5-5.6, 12-35/2.8, 35-100/2.8, Sigma 60mm f/2.8 DN Art, ZY Mitakon 25/0.95
 

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Andrew, if you're referring to hiss heard in the beginning, that's actually a sound effect of water on a river. Well, that's what they are calling it in FCX anyway... ::)

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10 hours ago, DDFZ said:

Andrew, if you're referring to hiss heard in the beginning, that's actually a sound effect of water on a river. Well, that's what they are calling it in FCX anyway... ::)

 

No, I hear hiss all the way through.  If I have time, I'll go back and re-analyze.


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Manual Focus Lenses:  Nikon 55/3.5 Micro pre-AI, 105/2.5 AI, ZY Mitakon Creator 85/2

Olympus PEN-F, EM5.2, Olympus 9mm f/8 Fisheye, 17/1.8, 75-300/4.8-6.7 II, Panasonic 12-32/3.5-5.6, 12-35/2.8, 35-100/2.8, Sigma 60mm f/2.8 DN Art, ZY Mitakon 25/0.95
 

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Dallas, The video is quite well done ! Nice to hear you ! 

I listen to it using the laptop speakers and while there is some hiss, it did not bother me and I was able to understand perfectly

I have seen other review videos with people using a microphone attached to their shirt and the audio is indeed better

 

What software did you use to edit the video? 

 

Regarding the bag ... maybe if I have bigger mirrorless cameras, for the V1 is to much

 

Do you have more ideas about creating videos ? 

 

 

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Armando

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Thanks Armando! 

 

You can get both a smaller and larger version of this TurnStyle bag. Maybe go check out their website for more info? I think they are pretty neat. 

 

I am using Final Cut Pro X, but have a lot to learn. The audio is with a Rode VideoMicro shotgun mic I bought specifically for this. I have actually just finished setting up an overhead shooting rig with better lighting so I am going to be doing a bit more work on unboxing and demos, etc. However, before I can go much deeper into this video stuff I need to invest in a proper video camera. The Olympus E-M1's I have are rudimentary at best for video, so I am looking to purchase a Panasonic GH-4 2nd hand to improve my work.

 

Video might very well become my main thing looking ahead as one of my website clients is in the process of setting up a tuition centre where video lessons will play a role. I am their first choice tech person to not only set up the website (I already did this one for them) but also produce the video lessons. 

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I like your video. Maybe a little too long, but better than most of the equipment review videos found on YouTube.

Clever idea with the felt on the rear caps. You could maybe glue/tape a bit of velcro to one of the caps to stop them from sliding around.

 

I recently bought the larger version called TurnStyle 20. I have only used it for one short trip yet, filled with my Nikon D810 and three lenses. 

It's my third sling type bag, the two others being a LowePro SlingShot and a Tenba 123-GO-20. My problem with them are that they have too much padding, making them stiff and ungainly. The TurnStyle with its thinner padding is easier both to carry and to get my stuff in and out of. 

For short hikes off-road I'll probably still use the Tenba, which can also be used with two straps like an ordinary backpack. For walking around in the streets I'll choose the TurnStyle.

 

I have also thought about finding a way to secure those zippers, but I haven't decided what to do yet. I hope you will let us know if you find a good solution to that problem.  

 

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Hi, Dallas, sorry for my long absence.  I missed you all but, for some reason, haven't had a chance to log in here.

 

Congrats on your first video review.  I think the review is thorough and your comments are easy to understand.

 

My only humble criticism would be the audio.  So far as I'm listening to the audio on my computer (meaning, in a casual, not too critical situation), neither the hiss or the background noise bothers me.  What might detracting a bit would be the reverberation in the room.  A lavalier microphone would work better than that of a shotgun type.

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Thanks for the feedback, Akira. :) 

 

Yes, this audio business is all new to me. I think the issue is probably because there are no sound absorbing materials apart from a few curtains in the room. If the videos I make in the future catch on I will invest in better audio gear, for sure. 

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Dallas, controlling the acoustic character of a room is very tricky.  So, I would think it is more reasonable to employ the microphone that is more immune to the acoustic environment.  That's why I mentioned the lav mic.  When the sound source (your own voice in this case) is closer to the microphone, you can lower the level, which reduces the environmental and electronic interferences like the background noise, hiss noise and the reverberation from the room.


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      In the pocket shown as empty here I later added my sunglasses cases. I had a pair of polarised driving glasses and a regular pair.
       
      So on the day of the flight I got to the airport (early as usual) and there was a very large queue of people waiting to check into the Kukula.com flights. I was somewhere near the front of the queue when I heard this announcement being made that went something along these lines: "Kulula.com advises all passengers travelling with them that hand luggage is restricted to one item only and that it may not exceed 7kgs. It will be weighed at the check-in counter and also again at the gate. If any hand luggage is found to be over the limit at the gate you will be sent back to the check-in counter and additional check-in charges will be incurred." Oh. What could I do? My carry on weighed close to 20kgs!
       
      Well, I could only do one thing: plead ignorance. I got to the counter, hoisted my big red suitcase onto the conveyor and would you believe it, the scale read 20.8kgs. The attendant looks at me and says I am over the 20kg limit and I will have to pay in R250 (about $25) for additional baggage. I look back at her and I smile. "That can't be possible. I weighed this suitcase at home and it was 19.5kgs. There must be something wrong with your scale. Can we try it on another scale?" Now at this point the queue had gotten longer and there were no additional free counters for us to check the weight at. She looked at me, half-smiled and said, "OK, I'll let you go through without extra charges, but next time you'll have to pay the R250..."
       
      Phew.
       
      All this timethe ThinkTank Security roller was parked right in front of the desk with my jacket over it. "What's that bag?" she asked, somehow managing to catch sight of it. I told her that it's just my camera bag. She handed me my boarding pass and ID and wished me a pleasant flight.
      At the gate I was looking for these hand luggage weight police but I saw no scales or scaffolding apparatus that could possibly be used to measure bags, so I relaxed a little and waited to be let on board. Fortunately the bag fit perfectly in the overhead stowage of the plane and I got to Cape Town without any further drama.
       
      Flying back from Cape Town to Durban my big red suitcase had somehow lost a bit of weight and only tipped the scales at 19.1kgs. No questions about anything else. Onboard I found myself sitting right at the back of a very full Boeing 737-800 which also had slightly different overhead bins to the plane I had flown down on, the kind that hang down and are then clipped up during the flight. I managed to get the roller into the one directly over my seat, but it was a bit of a struggle as somebody else had already put stuff in it (I wasn't the first to board because Cape Town airport has to buck convention and their gates are illogically designed when it comes to figuring out how to queue up). Just prior to touch down in Durban we hit a bit of turbulence and the overhead bin with my roller in it popped open. Thankfully nothing fell out and the passenger on the aisle was able to simply pop it closed by reaching up his arm.
       
      Phew, once again.
       
      OK, so about the case... the ThinkTank Airport Security rolling case is awesome. Compared to the ThinkTank Airport International V2.0 version it has a few additional features, such as a set of backpack straps that hide away in a compartment in the back. You can wear it on your back but don't expect it to be very comfortable when fully laden. I guess this feature is handy to have if you have to take the case across terrain that isn't exactly roller-friendly (like muddy patches, or grass, etc).
       

       
      Showing the straps that fold into a flap on the back
       
      There's an extra pocket that flips open on the side of the case and inside it there are some stretchy divisions that are handy to store things like keys, wallets, etc. It also has a buckle that you use to attach the tripod/monopod straps to secure such things to your case. It is a bit tricky to figure out if you don't use the instructions sheet, but once you know how it's a doddle.
       

       
      Side pocket with buckle for tripod attachment bits
       
      At the top of the case there is a place to put your business cards in. I cannot stress enough how important it is to keep a good supply of these in all your camera bags. It's great that all the ThinkTank bags I have used have dedicated space for these to be easily accessible. I also used this roller on the ICANN47 meeting here in Durban and I was constantly dishing out cards to people throughout the conference.
       
      Just below the business card holder is another zippered pocket with enough room to store your plane tickets and passport which makes them very easy to get to.
       

       
      The rest of the case is very similar to the International, just a bit roomier. This case is ideal for photographers who need to carry big lenses like 400mm f/2.8's and while I don't have one to try, I reckon you might even get a 600mm f/4 into it too.
      As with the International I would strongly advise getting the low divider set so that you can store your laptop on the inside of the case while travelling. Speaking of the inside, once you have it open the lid has 4 zippered pockets that you can store things like memory cards, AA batteries, cleaning kits and whatever else you need to store that is slim line. ThinkTank have also very cleverly sewn in little stretchy pockets for the zip ends to slip snugly into. This ensures that they are not exposed to your gear where friction could cause unsightly abrasions.
       
      The reason why I decided to keep the larger version of the ThinkTank rollers and not the International is because of the additional room. When I was shooting the ICANN47 conference I had my Nikon and micro four thirds kit inside it, but what I did with the m43 kit is put the whole lot into my amazing little ThinkTank Retrospective 5 shoulder bag and then put that bag right into the roller. It was a perfect fit and it gave me the versatility I needed to be mobile as well as have as much gear as necessary securely placed nearby. Being able to lock the roller's lid zipper with the combination is probably the cleverest thing I have ever seen on any camera case. Love it.
       
      On the rolling side the wheels used on the Airport series of rollers are excellent. They roll super-smoothly and are practically silent. I believe they use the same wheels that you get on roller blades, but I'll need to confirm that.
       
      So, now that I have established that it is in fact possible to travel on most domestic flights between big cities in South Africa that are relevant to our safari operations, this roller will become my go-to companion on those trips. It will also be very useful for when I am covering conferences and other shoots that require a fair amount of gear to be brought along. The Airport Security V2.0 is pretty rugged. While we were in Namibia there were 3 of us using these cases and they all came through with flying colours. They kept the dust out (and boy, did we have a lot of dust!) plus they rolled everywhere. They are easy to load and unload into vehicles because of the extra handles on the top, bottom and side. Plus, all these ThinkTank rollers have a metal plate riveted onto the top rear section with your serial number printed onto it. You can register your case with them and if it is ever lost and then found by a good samaritan it can be returned to you.
       

       
      A ThinkTank dominated Land Rover Freelander in Damaraland, Namibia.
       
      Many thanks to ThinkTank for not only designing this awesome piece of kit storage, but also for sponsoring evaluation copies for me to review and put to the test in the harshest conditions (which is why the product shots shown here look a bit scruffy - they were taken after the case had travelled more than 10,000kms with me by road and air - I'll get around to cleaning it someday soon).
       
      If you're in the USA you can buy your ThinkTank Airport Security V2.0 directly from the company, plus you will also get a free gift from them when you do so using this link! 
       
      Note: the V2.0 has been replaced with the V3.0.

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