▶︎ ThinkTank TurnStyle 10 V2.0


DFZ

ThinkTank recently released their new V2.0 TurnStyle bags and they kindly send me one for the purposes of this review. 

 

So, for the first time ever I have created a video review! Let me tell you upfront that this was no easy task. It took me the entire day and much of the evening to film and then edit into what I hope is a useful video for anybody thinking about buying this bag (not to mention the overnight upload to YouTube on a 512Kbps upload line!). Unfortunately I could only upload in 720p, so if you are watching on a high res monitor full screen is probably not a good idea. 

 

I used 2 cameras to make the video. The scenes of me were done using the Olympus E-M1 and the overhead demo was done using the Pen-F. The audio changed between them because the Pen-F doesn't have a mic input (I bought a Rode VideoMicro so that I can do more video for Fotozones).  

 

Anyway, hope you enjoy the video review format. It's a tad long, but hopefully useful. Please be constructive in the comments by letting me know what I can improve on for future videos (watch out for the bloopers at the end). :) 

 

 

Remember, you can support Fotozones by using this link to buy your TurnStyle bag directly from ThinkTank, who will also send you a nice little gift with it if you do. 

 

https://www.thinktankphoto.com/collections/turnstyle?rfsn=140410.92f763

 

Like this video? You can help incentivise me to make more content like this by supporting me via Patreon

 

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Sorry TT I think it would not be possible to conceive of a worse design for a camera bag, way too many twiddly bits! Going by the Dallas video quite difficult to get things in and out of it, a built in rain cove, well why not make it out of a waterproof material in the first place, just another twiddly bit to get lost and or flap about, back to the drawing board chaps! And I would bet there is not a left handed version? And god help anyone with DSLR outfit they've got no chance!

 

Dallas, I can't recall hearing your voice before! 

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Mike, I'm left handed. This bag is just fine for me. Sure, it may not work for everyone, but that's not a reason to slate it. And if you have a DSLR you can put it inside this version of the bag by changing the dividers about. Also, there is a larger version, the TurnStyle 20 which I am sure will accommodate bigger gear. 

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It was your video that prompted my reply, I will admit that it was the rain cover that was the main reason for my dislike of this bag but only the main reason because that tells me it is not water resistant! Also I noticed you struggling to get stuff in and out of the bag! That said I do still consider it a bad design! So we shall have to agree to disagree!

 

I'm not sure but this bag seems to be a design to fill a fashion slot in the ThinkTank range? I may be wrong but I don't think so!

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I think you're wrong Mike and apparently you missed the entire thrust of the video review, which is to describe it as a hybrid bag; not quite a shoulder bag, not quite a backpack, but somewhere in-between.

 

Why would you need such a bag? Because of the reasons I explained in the video. If you are moving around and you need to get your gear out without having to put the bag you are carrying down on the ground, this bag solves that issue. Also, if you have ever been in a shooting situation (like at an event) where you need to get lower angles, but are using a shoulder bag, you'll know that as soon as you shift your position gravity will draw that bag off of your shoulder. Also, most shoulder bags have flaps that get in the way or are hard to open, making it harder to get your gear out than this one ever could be. Have you ever had your shoulder bag open and in the process of trying to capture something while moving around had an item fall out? It's happened to me a few times. 

 

Trust me, I have tried many, many, many different types of camera bags in many different shooting situations. This bag is not a fashion statement - it's a practical solution to an everyday problem I have faced many times. I realise that these situations may not apply to you, but they will apply to many people who are similar to me. It's a good product and I am not being paid to say that. ThinkTank are a credible company making incredibly good solutions for people like me.  

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Dallas as I said we shall have to agree to disagree, I have no wish to have an argument with you! 

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1)  Great to finally hear your voice.

2)  There is a lot of hiss in the audio.  I think the camera internal audio gain may be set too high.

3)  Reviews are never easy to do.  I think you did a good job for the first video.  You'll only get better with more exposure to it.

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Thanks Andrew, much appreciated. 

 

I am using the Rode Video Micro on the E-M1 for the first and last segments. The overhead was done with the Pen-F which doesn't have a mic input. The hiss in the last segment may have been a processing issue that I didn't get right. Or it might be that I left the studio window open and that's the sound of the wind in the trees outside. 

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I'm pretty sure that is hiss from the microphone.  If it were wind, it would be intermittent.  From my end it sounded pretty constant.

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Andrew, if you're referring to hiss heard in the beginning, that's actually a sound effect of water on a river. Well, that's what they are calling it in FCX anyway... ::)

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10 hours ago, DDFZ said:

Andrew, if you're referring to hiss heard in the beginning, that's actually a sound effect of water on a river. Well, that's what they are calling it in FCX anyway... ::)

 

No, I hear hiss all the way through.  If I have time, I'll go back and re-analyze.

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Dallas, The video is quite well done ! Nice to hear you ! 

I listen to it using the laptop speakers and while there is some hiss, it did not bother me and I was able to understand perfectly

I have seen other review videos with people using a microphone attached to their shirt and the audio is indeed better

 

What software did you use to edit the video? 

 

Regarding the bag ... maybe if I have bigger mirrorless cameras, for the V1 is to much

 

Do you have more ideas about creating videos ? 

 

 

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Thanks Armando! 

 

You can get both a smaller and larger version of this TurnStyle bag. Maybe go check out their website for more info? I think they are pretty neat. 

 

I am using Final Cut Pro X, but have a lot to learn. The audio is with a Rode VideoMicro shotgun mic I bought specifically for this. I have actually just finished setting up an overhead shooting rig with better lighting so I am going to be doing a bit more work on unboxing and demos, etc. However, before I can go much deeper into this video stuff I need to invest in a proper video camera. The Olympus E-M1's I have are rudimentary at best for video, so I am looking to purchase a Panasonic GH-4 2nd hand to improve my work.

 

Video might very well become my main thing looking ahead as one of my website clients is in the process of setting up a tuition centre where video lessons will play a role. I am their first choice tech person to not only set up the website (I already did this one for them) but also produce the video lessons. 

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I like your video. Maybe a little too long, but better than most of the equipment review videos found on YouTube.

Clever idea with the felt on the rear caps. You could maybe glue/tape a bit of velcro to one of the caps to stop them from sliding around.

 

I recently bought the larger version called TurnStyle 20. I have only used it for one short trip yet, filled with my Nikon D810 and three lenses. 

It's my third sling type bag, the two others being a LowePro SlingShot and a Tenba 123-GO-20. My problem with them are that they have too much padding, making them stiff and ungainly. The TurnStyle with its thinner padding is easier both to carry and to get my stuff in and out of. 

For short hikes off-road I'll probably still use the Tenba, which can also be used with two straps like an ordinary backpack. For walking around in the streets I'll choose the TurnStyle.

 

I have also thought about finding a way to secure those zippers, but I haven't decided what to do yet. I hope you will let us know if you find a good solution to that problem.  

 

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Hi, Dallas, sorry for my long absence.  I missed you all but, for some reason, haven't had a chance to log in here.

 

Congrats on your first video review.  I think the review is thorough and your comments are easy to understand.

 

My only humble criticism would be the audio.  So far as I'm listening to the audio on my computer (meaning, in a casual, not too critical situation), neither the hiss or the background noise bothers me.  What might detracting a bit would be the reverberation in the room.  A lavalier microphone would work better than that of a shotgun type.

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Thanks for the feedback, Akira. :) 

 

Yes, this audio business is all new to me. I think the issue is probably because there are no sound absorbing materials apart from a few curtains in the room. If the videos I make in the future catch on I will invest in better audio gear, for sure. 

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Dallas, controlling the acoustic character of a room is very tricky.  So, I would think it is more reasonable to employ the microphone that is more immune to the acoustic environment.  That's why I mentioned the lav mic.  When the sound source (your own voice in this case) is closer to the microphone, you can lower the level, which reduces the environmental and electronic interferences like the background noise, hiss noise and the reverberation from the room.

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