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#1 PedroS

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:57

As our Fotozones is growing bigger it could be interesting who's here for large format and see if enough interest could be generated for a separate thread (or couple of).
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#2 Tejpor

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 16:41

I would be interested. Of course, NG is not (yet) the best place for it, as at GetDPI there are more folks practicing this art :)

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 20:34

I only us "35mm" as they would say in the old days. But what about a combined MF/LF forum? The reason for thinking this, is that you can use a MF digital back on a 4x5 or 6x9 camera. Just an idea.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 21:05

I use a Leica S2 and a D800E, so I would vote in favor of at least a combined MF/LF thread.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 21:07

That's great, because I also use a dslr on my Sinar P, between 4x5 photos...
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 22:25

I use my Dslrs as digibacks for my sinar p2 and recently published stunning results with the d600 combined with the amzing new schneider apo digitar 5.6 120mm in my d600 thread, I also tested the d800e and the d3 and the d7000. As digibacks the d7000 and the d600 deliver painlessly and reliably where the d800e is a horse difficult to ride with results only very slightly better than the d600.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 22:25

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 22:47

Didn't think about DSLRs when I wrote my previous post. But I know it's possible.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:58

Interesting Post, Pedro.I'd be interested. I still have my 4x5 cameras and a 5x7 camera I built a couple of years ago. I've seen adapters for them on eBay but I thought that you would get image cut off when moving the camera too far away from the centre of the image circle. I kept my lenses as well because I figure eventually the price of digital backs will become affordable. Is that what you are using is the camera with an adapter or are you using an digital back? Regards, Gerry

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 03:11

Interesting idea. 8x10 is my dream camera, and I consider and use my Sony NEX as DX-format digital back that "also" works as a compact mirrorless camera. :)
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:03

Not having any experience with MF, what would be the primary advantages of using the MF camera as the "lens" and the dSLRs or mirrorless MILC as the digital back?

#12 PedroS

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:08

Interesting Post, Pedro.I'd be interested. I still have my 4x5 cameras and a 5x7 camera I built a couple of years ago. I've seen adapters for them on eBay but I thought that you would get image cut off when moving the camera too far away from the centre of the image circle. I kept my lenses as well because I figure eventually the price of digital backs will become affordable. Is that what you are using is the camera with an adapter or are you using an digital back? Regards, Gerry


The best ones I could found, and no cutoff of the image came from Just Together
http://www.just-toge.../adapter_en.htm
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:20

Not having any experience with MF, what would be the primary advantages of using the MF camera as the "lens" and the dSLRs or mirrorless MILC as the digital back?


Simple put... none, or only for special applications.

I use it for architecture, because I can achieve much bigger T/S and other perspective corrections or inductions.
Other than that is for fun, interest and learn. There's no free lunch to achieve a perfect combo using a dslr as a back.

Using it with 4x5 or bigger film is a lesson to be learned, and quite relaxing.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:58

Thanks Pedro. I understand. It is for this reason that I got an X100 and continue to use this still despite owning other cameras.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:08

The best ones I could found, and no cutoff of the image came from Just Together
http://www.just-toge.../adapter_en.htm




I use the just together. it is good for single shots as well as huge stiched shots.

Currently one can buy a Phase One 65+ for about 12.000 Euro refurbished / factory demo with guarantee.

Trouble is the DSLR-quality-index is skyrocketing while the smallmarket Digiback is moving at snailpace

As long as you do not shoot fast moving models with a 5 x 4000 Ws Flash battery setup or need a lot of movements in high end interior architecture with very short focal length, there is no necessity for a digiback anymore.

And the last application can be done in the same or better quality with a precision panohead like this one: http://www.360precis...D=1&mainnavID=2 plus real lenses like the Leica on a Leitex adapter or some of the new Zeiss MFs.


I can produce a 200-Megapixel stillife with just together, P2 and a D600 that runs circles around a P65+ shot...

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Edited by FrankF, 19 January 2013 - 11:10 .

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 18:09

Yep these gigs are really impressive, simple yet almost perfect.
Do you know similar to LG?
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:31

The best ones I could found, and no cutoff of the image came from Just Together
http://www.just-toge.../adapter_en.htm

Actually I found some at.......https://www.badgergraphic.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=2859
although I've seen them on eBay for as low as $185 USD. So thanks Pedro for the link. I'm just wondering if eventually you'll get image cut off. I'm thinking of rigging up some sort of jig for my 65mm Super Angulon lens on my Nikon V1 to tilt and shift the lens because the sensor is so much smaller than the mount. Any thoughts? Regards, Gerry

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:45

There are fixed rigs to adapt LF lenses to Nikon
http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e7648693c
but they don't T/S
Hartblei made tilt transformers, but didn't found any Nikon-to-Nikon so you could adapt to the FT1.
Some more research and innovation could be in order.
I doubt that you could focus to infinity due to longer minimum distance to sensor.
Another option is to adapt your V1+FT1 directly to the 4x5 camera.

With the just together rig, image cutoff is hard to achieve, but it largely depends of extreme movements and projected lens circle.

Edited by PedroS, 20 January 2013 - 10:47 .

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:25

There is a very active LF forum ... http://www.largeform...forum/forum.php
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:02

Pedro, for now Fotozones members can use the Other Equipment board here to discuss this format with other FZ/NG members.

Later this year when the migration of the URL is done I might consider adding a dedicated board in a new zone for that. Small steps for now. :)

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