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#21 black_bird_blue

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 16:47

Great thread. I'm completely baffled by both techniques. I guess that's because I can cook quite well...

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#22 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 17:52

hehe Damian - dont start ....... :tease: I have a list of requirements in a man:

nice
young
rich
virile
and must cook.

oh and must be single. Fred doesnt qualify - he spends all his money on PC's :mosking:
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 19:14

hehe Damian - dont start ....... :tease: I have a list of requirements in a man:

Let's see how I can measure up

nice...... well on occasion (like Christmas & New Years)
young..... I'm not going to dignify that with an answer
rich...... I'm rich with personality, is that what you mean?
virile.... I do shave but comb my hair with a wash rag
and must cook..... No need to, I can make reservations

oh and must be single.... Oh, damn and I was so close...


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#24 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 19:21

Sorry Rags. you dont qualify - on account of the undignified answer hahah
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 20:51

And apparently you also live in a very small planet very similar to the one of Saint Exupery's Little Prince.
Watch out those baobabs, they could tear apart your little planet.

PS: Forgot to quote the opening post...

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#26 Alan7140

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 23:19

OK, concede maybe your picture was quicker, but actual hands-on time (6 or 7 mouse clicks) was probably a lot less, and at a guess mine would likely do a just a teensy bit bigger in the printing dept :) (75 shots from an X-100 @ 12MP each = 2.03GB file, 8'x4' print @288ppi unsampled).

The shots (360ºx180º - that's the tripod at bottom):
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and, coincidentally, the actual rough flat pano stitch which sealed my decision to buy the X-Pro1 and make that my pano camera (this being before the ugly X-Pro1/ACR raw fiasco raised its head)
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Elsa, the tree is an oak, planted 17 January 1881 at the opening of the school which is part of my property (not visible here, behind the "headmaster's cottage" that is my house these days).

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hehe Damian - dont start ....... :tease: I have a list of requirements in a man:

nice
young
rich
virile
and must cook.

oh and must be single. Fred doesnt qualify - he spends all his money on PC's :mosking:


Agreed, I'm not young, avowedly single for the rest of my stay, perhaps nice (sometimes), cooking is optional, but certainly not on the Viagra yet. 4/5 mandatory criteria fail don't cut it.

Not rich, because the large amounts of money I save by using PC instead of Mac I spend on pleasures such as custom guitars and exciting new tech camera gear such as the X-Pro1 :victory: . And the purchase of my new Freelander 2 SD4 HSE, of course, which cost as much as my house did 18 years ago and takes me in the lap of luxury up or down any road or track I choose to travel on using that camera gear. Yup, there's a lot to be said for using Windows 7 & PC. :) :)

I do note you used the term "Blue Screen" in another thread whilst heaping Mac justification onto PC - been away from Windows for a lo-o-o-ong time, then, eh? I haven't seen one of those for at least four years now, and haven't had a single crash in the last five computers & laptops using M$ :wink:. The blue screen I did encounter was my last deskbottom computer's new P6 2.66GHz 4-core cpu protesting against my attempts at overclocking (something my current i7-3960X 6-core simply thrives on, completely unstressed at 4.33GHz). So even that had nothing to do with Windows, an Intel Mac would have done the same thing.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 23:35

I can cook, but that's about it.
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#28 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:23

ron - toasted sarmies dont count.

Fred - there is no doubt in my mind that your image is hands up completely and utterly better than my gimmicky one. I am almost embarrassed by mine as I think its a bit kitsch. But like I said - I was bored and came upon the tutorial and tried it out. Couldn't believe it worked.

as for PC's - you are correct in saying that I havent been on a PC in 7 years. That's a long time and things do change. Still most people moving over to mack today agree they will never go back.

re the LIST of requirements. I am enjoying my single life and doing things I could never do had I been involved. the list is a bit of a joke with my friends as they permanently want to introduce me to men so I keep finding reasons not to :)

That's one mighty old oak!
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:32

wonderful pic :good:

#30 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:57

Use an image that has a level horizon - (you will know soon enough after trying this out what works)
1. Image: image size: un-tick constrain proportions.
2. change the height to be the same as the width - to make it a perfect square. ( it will be distorted)
3. Image: Image rotation - flip vertical
4. Filter: Distort: Polar co-ordinates: (tick rectangular to polar)
5. fix the seam
6. Rotate to your liking.
7. crop to your liking

MOST IMPORTANT - post here so we can see
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#31 Alan7140

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:42

Nothing wrong with kitsch, easy or gimmicky photos, Elsa, I can think of dozens of examples which are acknowledged classics.
Campbell soup tins, anyone?

They planted the oaks in schoolgrounds here at the opening dedication of schools following the old Druid belief of the oak being the "Tree of Knowledge". As I know the date my little country school was dedicated, I therefore know exactly when the tree was planted. Tasmania being a backwater, "progress" hasn't flattened everything in the rush to modernize, so there are several similar examples still standing around the State, the oldest and biggest I've seen being in Hobart, probably planted around 1815-25 (Tasmania was first invaded by Europeans in 1803 in search of food-growing land, after the penal colony at Botany Bay NSW nearly failed through starvation, and Botany Bay in turn had been acquired after some British Tea Party guests had been kicked out of another place and told somewhat forcibly to take their convicts, amongst other things, elsewhere). Both my school building and the oak tree are listed by the National Trust, which makes me happily fulfilled as the caretaker for the moment.

As to your List of Requirements comment, as I mentioned, I am "avowedly single".
In my case the old adage of sticking with what you're good at, and abandoning that which you're not, or "know your limitations" applied - I don't do relationships well at all. But that's just me.
Finishing the last one nearly 20 years ago now happily transpired to me living in the house I always wanted to, in the place I always wanted to, doing exactly what I always wanted to do. Some self-righteous folk have admonished me for being "selfish" (for what, not being miserable????) but the hell with it - we're only here once and I'm not going to live my remaining time in misery doing something I don't enjoy and am not good at just to appease someone else's opinion of me. I'm always genuinely amazed at people who think it their place to tell me what to do and then actually take the liberty of doing so.

The upshot of my choice has been that when the subject comes up in conversation, I can honestly say that if my exit occurs tomorrow, my last thought as I head for the ground will be "that was OK", rather than a flood regrets for things I wanted to do but hadn't.
So I don't have to frantically live every day as if it were my last, but can sit back, favourite music playing, cruise control engaged and cruising down the slow lane until I run out of road.
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#32 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:59

Fred - at least you are good at story telling :)
Now that you have seen the process - is that what you do once you have stitched your images?
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#33 Alan7140

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:25

Fred - at least you are good at story telling :)
Now that you have seen the process - is that what you do once you have stitched your images?


Heh heh, thanks, though most would comment that I'm hard to shut up.

Nope, different process - the stitcher does it all. Both AutoPano Giga and PTGUI have a range of "projections" to choose from depending on the panorama or partial panorama being processed and the final effect wanted (as in "spherical" for a pano taken 360x180º of the sort that can be turned into one of those navigable quicktime things you see on the web, where you can look up, down, around etc without distortion, "cylindrical" for single row panos taken with a normal lens and stitched projected as if on a flat cylindrical surface, "planar" projected as if a rectilinear wide was used, etc etc, and some effects type projections such as "little planet" which gives the result you see here, plus a few other esoteric filters which produce purely gimmick-type effects for normal panos (they might have some medical or scientific use which escapes me, however).

To do the "little planet" one you need to shoot for a full spherical pano for it to work properly.

There is also no seaming apart from that which might happen in the original stitch if the initial taking is loose and has bad overlaps. Done with a good 3-axis lens-nodal pano head the result gets spat out perfectly seamless at the end of the stitching with the little planet effect done.

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#34 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:39

yup yours is a much better process indeed. but having done this image now - it cured my itch for getting a lens to do kitschy things :)
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:54

Elsa, for some reason, the original image reminded me of the Andrei Tarkovsky movie "Solaris". I'm single, but I don't know if that has something to do with it. :P
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#36 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:06

hehehe thanks Akira.

this thread is certainly getting some interesting comments :)
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:40

Had to flip vertically to get an image to work - will this vary depending on image?

#38 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:09

Shyte Fred - sorry that was a typo = must be vertical flip
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:11

Doing the same image with your method results thus (no seam if the image is exactly 360º, BTW:
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Compared with "Little Planet":
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Plus, it helps if the outside edge is clean, such as plain sky. Complex edge - not so much:
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Interesting little toy - easy enough to record an action and then seam retouching aside it takes just seconds.

#40 Elsa Hoffmann

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:16

indeed. the most difficult part is the seam. Which you can reduce by editing first - I found if I get the 2 sides of similar colour sky - much less seam to fix.
toy indeed. For me tho - I dont see this kind of image as something I will do every 10 seconds, or maybe ever again unless I can figure out what else to do with that action - hence my comment - I was bored.

Your method is blooming nice, but for me who is never going to do this stuff (I think) I am having fun :)
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