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180 2.8 vs. 2.8D


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#1 bral

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 22:15

What exactly is the difference between the 180mm 2.8 and 2.8D versions? I bought my 180 somewhat impulsively a few months ago, and bought the non-D version. (Still "ED" though) I'm pretty happy with it although the autofocus is pretty slow (on my D50). Still, I'm curious if I should feel motivated to switch it out for the 2.8D version.
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Posted 09 August 2006 - 23:47

No, I wouldn't do that, unless you intend to make another person happy (ie. the guy who purchases your non-D 180). In fact, the unsubstantiated belief of "D" superiority has made getting good AF lenses easier and cheaper than ever before, since people drop their AF to get the AF-D.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 00:04

No, I wouldn't do that, unless you intend to make another person happy (ie. the guy who purchases your non-D 180). In fact, the unsubstantiated belief of "D" superiority has made getting good AF lenses easier and cheaper than ever before, since people drop their AF to get the AF-D.


I never understood the people dumping their perfectly fine non-D lenses. I never really understood that D feature, if a feature it is.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 11:09

The "D" feature only helps with distance calculations and, in my mind, that is a desireable but not necessary feature. My 180 has it but I wouldn't replace it if it didn't. You'll be fine with your version. The AF on a D50/D70/D70s is a bit slow with this lens. When I first got mine I put it on my D70 and took a few shots without really giving the AF speed much thought. When I put it on one of my D1x bodies it felt like the motor would twist the lens in half. I was amazed.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 18:26

Thanks for the advice everyone, I'll definitely be sticking with my non-D.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 18:37

One thing for sure Brian, is that the focus speed will NOT increase on a D lens. I have one, and that is my only complaint about this lens (well, there is the wimpy built-in hood - it could stand to be about twice as long!) The only 180 lens I would find objectionable is the one with the skinny focus ring, because this is a lens that begs to be manually focussed.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 18:49

Chris, a lens hood I find to be very nice on the 180 is the HN-20. It adds weight and balance to the whole lens and it fits great. It's as if it was made for that lens. I also use that hood on the 135DC and 105DC.
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 02:13

NB24, That is a good recomendation (the lens hood) I think I need one. Thanks,

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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:26

NB24,
That is a good recomendation (the lens hood) I think I need one.
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Yes, really! It's fantastic. And it's very well made, thick and all. It's a good investment IMHO. I own 2 and I'm looking for a third one so all my 72mm lenses can have a dedicated hood.
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 21:21

NB24,
That is a good recomendation (the lens hood) I think I need one.
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Yes, really! It's fantastic. And it's very well made, thick and all. It's a good investment IMHO. I own 2 and I'm looking for a third one so all my 72mm lenses can have a dedicated hood.


NB24, is that hood long enough to really protect the glass from the rays....flare, ghosting, lack of contrast; these I detest !! Will it deflect enough? Thanks
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 22:50

The lens hood is the same size of the one on the 180, except it starts right from the filter thread as opposed to the original one, which protrudes only half its length. so the hood is actually 2x deeper. Yes, it is excellent for blocking light. Also, it is thick, well made and it lokos like it was made for the 180. This combo doesn't look strange at all (as opposed to other odd lens+hood combinations)
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Posted 17 August 2006 - 17:39

The AF on a D50/D70/D70s is a bit slow with this lens. When I first got mine I put it on my D70 and took a few shots without really giving the AF speed much thought. When I put it on one of my D1x bodies it felt like the motor would twist the lens in half. I was amazed.


Mike - I've also thought about trading in my 70-200 for the 180mm, but the main thing stopping me is the 180's reputation as slow-focussing. I have a D200. Do you know, or does anyone else here know, how the 180 does on a D200? Slower, I assume than the 70-200, but is it close?

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 17:58

Mike - I've also thought about trading in my 70-200 for the 180mm, but the main thing stopping me is the 180's reputation as slow-focussing. I have a D200. Do you know, or does anyone else here know, how the 180 does on a D200? Slower, I assume than the 70-200, but is it close?

DAB


On the D200, the 180 is faster focusing than on the D70 (quicker snap), though it's not in AF-S or D2h/x range.
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